"Ross" <junk.trap@aslef-lincoln.org.uk> wrote in message
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> They don't need to. The ATOC website as a whole doesn't seem to be
> intended to be used by the general public; it strikes me as an
> intranet for those who aren't on the network.
>
> The vast majority of information that gets referred to on these groups
> is in the Travel Trade section and I think it's reasonable to assume
> that it's really there for the use of Rail Appointed Travel Agents
> rather than Usenauts, for all we find it useful.
>
>
> >An obvious question for them to ask would be: can a would-be passenger
> >find out information about timetables and fares for all standard
> >journeys, and either timetables/fares or a further point of contact (eg,
> >weblinks) for *any* not-utterly-uncommon 'complex' journeys that a
> >passenger using our services is likely to make?
>
> Well, that's probably every railway in Europe failed, then.
>
> From personal experience: SNCF's site has mardies and won't quote
> fares when it's sulking; SNCB/NMBS's won't provide any cross-border or
> international fares at all, ditto the HAFAS engine used by DBAG.

The trouble is Ross, we don't know if your telling the truth or not !!!!!!