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Subject:Re: Isn't this better described as 'aether'?
Date:Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:53:22 GMT
From:"Free Psychosoma Foundation" <KILLTHESPAMlifit@softhome.net>
Newsgroups:alt.consciousness,alt.philosophy,alt.philosophy.debate,sci.philosophy.meta,sci.skeptic
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> Fields are spacetime.

Spacetime "spins" in spacetime? Like whirlpools? I could handle that too,
but is speed not a function of displacement in space with respect to time?
If the substance is not material how can it interact in such a way as to
generate space and time so it can spin in it?

>
> If so how can they spin in
> > what is not until they do? What generates the fields so they can
> spin in the
> > first place? And what makes them want to spin, anyway?
>
> Fields are energy.

Fields are spacetime are energy yet they *cause* spacetime by spinning
(displacement in space with respect to time) in spacetime? Is this a sort of
bootstrapping idea?

> Space is matter in a chaotic state and fields are ordered space.

So when a field collapses it becomes space?

> I think a field's behaviour and geometric properties are determined
> by objects in spacetime, while other properties like permeability
> and permittivity, are determined at the aether level.

I need to do more thinking to get that one...