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Subject:Re: How does pain decrease consciousness?
Date:Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:16:55 GMT
From:"Benjamin" <Benjamin@verizon.net>
Newsgroups:bionet.neuroscience,alt.support.disorders.neurological,misc.emerg-services,rec.martial-arts,sci.med.psychobiology
"Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in message 
news:1171257251.808727.183760@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 11, 8:56 pm, "Benjamin" <Benja...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> What you propose, above, is
>> Impossible.
>
> It is definitely extremely improbable but what makes it impossible?

You snipped the explanation.

You described a condition that
cannot occur because the spec-
ific deficits you described cannot
occur without a lot of other stuff
simultaneously occurring, which
renders the specific conditions
you described non-existent.

Nervous systems are =tightly=
globally-integrated, which is a
prerequisite of "unified consci-
ousness.

>> No. Loss of consciousness just
>> doesn't occur as you've proposed.
>
> According that martial arts website, the pain does cause the RAS to
> cause coma.

Such info must always be cross-
correlated with respect to other
available sources of info.

One wants to benefit from the
work done by as many other
people as possible -- in order
to see what's upheld when all
such is integrated.

>> It happens because neural trauma,
>> either 'temporary' or permanent, has
>> occurred.
>
> Unconsciousness isn't always due to trauma.

Well, there is sleeping-consciousness,
and there's consciousness that's so
narrowly-focussed that one is oblivious
to almost everything else [until a loud
noise, or something like that occurs],
but what other kind of "unconsciousness"
is there?

If a guy's "out-cold" on the floor, it is
100%-certain that there's correlated
neural trauma involved, as I discussed
in my preceding post, at least 'temporarily'.

This 100%-ertainty also derives in
the tight global-integration I reit-
erated above [although more than
I've posted to you is necessary for
it's 'full' comprehension.]

>
>> There is no 'magic'.
>
> Never said there is.
>
>> Alter a "system" and the "system"
>> 'functions' in a way that reflects
>> the alterations that have been im-
>> posed upon it.
>
> Okay.

Cheers, Radium,

ken