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Subject:Re: How does pain decrease consciousness?
Date:Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:13:16 GMT
From:"Benjamin" <Benjamin@verizon.net>
Newsgroups:bionet.neuroscience,alt.support.disorders.neurological,misc.emerg-services,rec.martial-arts,sci.med.psychobiology
"Benjamin" <Benjamin@verizon.net> wrote in message 
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> "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in message 
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>> On Feb 10, 7:58 pm, "Benjamin" <Benja...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> [...]
> [...]

> What I was saying was that, if a person
> loses consciousness due to such ex-
> treme "pain", then that probably indicates
> that there's underlying neural damage
> that was caused by the physical trauma
> that the "pain" was communicating to
> consciousness before consciousness
> was lost.
>
> "Pain" and the underlying neural damage
> are often correlated but are actually two
> different things.
> [...]

Most-often most of the neural damage is
a 'temporary' consequence of abnormal
physical displacements 'within' the neur-
al network. Such displacements alter the
'normal' neural topology so that 'normal'
neural-activation coincidences do not oc-
cur [which constitutes a TD E/I(up) condi-
tion.]

The neural tissue has some built-in re-
silience which tends to return the neur-
al network to a somewhat 'normal' con-
dition ['normal' topology] if the forces
that imposed the injury did not sever
anything.

Most "concussions" are like this, although
usually more than just the brain stem is
involved.

These sorts of 'temporary' displacements
[temporary distortions of the neural to-
pology] occur because, in its living 'state',
the brain has the consistency of a semi-stiff
pudding [which consistency exists as a
physical substrate for the "hydraulic"
stuff that I've been discussing in other
threads here in b.n. "Concussions" are
abnormallly-rapid and large occurrences
of 'normal' hydraulic 'plasticity'. That is,
nervous systems are vulnerable to con-
cussive injury be-cause they use the ex-
tremely-less-violent versions of the 'same'
displacement dynamics during their 'norm-
al' functioning. The forces that injure ab-
use this innate stuff that's fundamental
within all of nervous system function.]

It's probable that all such 'temporary'
displacements leave behind at least
minor permanent injury, and that these
scraps of the 'discrete' trauma occur-
rences accumulate with repeated oc-
currences of such violently-forced 'temp-
orary' displacements.

ken