Nigel wrote:

> 
>>But this only works for a big, charging, wide armed tackle.  Won't work
> 
> for
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>>squat on a Shoot.
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> 
> A 'shoot' involves forward momentum? This momentum (in theory) can always be
> used. Anyway, a shoot means you're in his striking range?
> 
> Its all about angles.........
> 
> 

It's more than angles - it's timing and balance (i.e. kuzushi).

A well-timed shoot will start when you're in a weighted position, such 
that you won't be able to move to the best angle for counter before 
you're down.

I was taught, back in the day as a high school wrestler, to shoot a 
single leg when most of the body weight was on that leg. Use the same 
principle in judo today. This is kuzushi.

Peter Claussen