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Subject:Re: Handicapped Nazis deserve a handicapped sticker
Date:Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:48:50 -0700
From:mikel <mikel@evins.net>
Newsgroups:talk.politics.libertarian,alt.philosophy.debate,alt.philosophy.objectivism,alt.society.anarchy,alt.anarchism
In article <vi68gmhtvd9g3e@corp.supernews.com>, Matt
<anonymatt@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 at 14:08 GMT, G*rd*n <gcf@panix.com> wrote:
> > Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin:
> >> >> "In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
> >> >> means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
> >> >> possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
> >> >> wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
> >> >> themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
> >> >> convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
> >> >> decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
> >> >> those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
> >> >> more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
> >> >> as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
> >> >> more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
> >> >> By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
> >> >> uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
> >> >> make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
> >> >> control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
> >> >> and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
> >> >> of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
> >> >> the 'freedom of the press.' 
> > 
> > Constantinople:
> >> > Did Hitler write that or did Gordon write that? It's hard to tell.
> > 
> > Matt <anonymatt@bigfoot.com>:
> >> Not at all.  Gordon spells "capital" with a capital-C. 
> > 
> > 
> > See, it's as I've said before -- you guys can't tell the
> > difference between Hitler and anyone else who is outside the
> > One True Faith of Pure Liberalism.  _Nulla salus extra
> > ecclesiam_.  All who do not believe and profess the Creed are
> > devils and there's not much to choose between them.  Although
> > normally I wouldn't be as rude to you as you are to yourselves.
>  
> Most people I know deviate from my "true faith," yet I get along with
> them fine.  You and Hitler, however, are a little more extreme.


Rather than argue, Gordon simply paints his adversaries as mindless
drones, whether for the purpose of insult, or out of laziness or
incompetence, I don't know.