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Subject:Re: The sensitivity and sentimentality of leftists
Date:Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:33:09 -0500
From:"Josh Dougherty" <jdoc1357b9@comcast.net>
Newsgroups:alt.society.anarchy,alt.anarchism,alt.anarchism.communist,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.politics.socialism.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.radical-left
"Constantinople" <constantinopoli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns959D7E13595E4asdfs32@140.99.99.130...
> "Josh Dougherty" <jdoc1357b9@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:guCdnXQbU_44lw_cRVn-oQ@comcast.com:
>
> > "Constantinople" <constantinopoli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:om6kd.4169419$ic1.405031@news.easynews.com...
> >> G*rd*n wrote:
> >> > bulba@bulba.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>The essence of the left: being deaf to other people. The left
> >> >>>THINKS it's sensitive to people. It's not. It's sentimental about
> >> >>>its own feelings. There's a vital difference between those two
> >> >>>states of mind.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Don Galt <DonGalt@atlantis.colorado.taggart>:
> >> >
> >> >>A very cogent and insightful point, well put.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How do you know?  I would say the observation is true of a lot of
> >> > people, not particularly leftists.  I'd be curious as to how you
> >> > two match up such a vague critique with people's political
> >> > attitudes.  You could start by defining "the Left"; are we talking
> >> > about such sentimentalists as Marx and Lenin, or somebody's
> >> > grandmother who is politically active in the interests of stray
> >> > cats?  Once we get a set of representative leftists, I'd like you
> >> > to show how you know that they think they're sensitive to people
> >> > but are really sentimental about their own feelings and how it
> >> > relates to their political philosophy.  Also, of course, we'll need
> >> > some representative not-leftists as a control group.  This should
> >> > be fun.
> >>
> >> Capitalist libertarians care about people from a subjectivist
> >> standpoint - meaning, what people want, matters and they realize they
> >> are ignorant, i.e., they realize they don't know what people want and
> >> so in their political philosophy leave it up to the people to decide
> >> what they want and to get it.  The principle of libertarianism is
> >> that people ought to be left alone by the state, that people ought to
> >> be left to take care of themselves, to get whatever it is that they
> >> want, and to do it themselves, since they know what it is they want.
> >
> > I assume this would include the fact that they know they don't want
> > Capitalist Libertarianism.
>
> Sure, though they are of course restricted, as I said, from victimizing
> other people.

Restricted by whom, what?  Oh, i know, the enlighted Capitalist Libertarians
who know better and must protect people from their poor choice of rejecting
Capitalist Libertarians' special meaning of 'victimizing'.

> Let me put it another way. Libertarians do not position themselves as
legal
> guardians of the masses.

Is this a joke?