The Danimal wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote: 
> > Sharon B wrote:
> > > Jim Ledford wrote:
> > > >Sharon B wrote:
> > > >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >when cold weather camping, if you want to sleep warmer, then
> > > >> >always change ALL clothing before you slide into your sleeping
> > > >> >bag.  believe it or not, even in cold weather your clothing will
> > > >> >contain body moisture.
> 
> Why not just get a sleeping bag with a sufficient temperature
> rating?

I'd say 'correct' rating, but 'sufficient' kind-da sort-of 
means correct.


> Do you think that when climbers on Mt. Everest stagger back to the
> South Col at 26,000 feet altitude in a blinding snowstorm after
> their 18 hour trudge to the top and back (the top is only 2 horizontal
> miles and 3000 vertical feet away but the lack of oxygen and the
> deep snow make getting there quite a workout) that these exhausted
> climbers will bother to change out of their snowsuits before crawling
> into their tents and sleeping bags?

extreme conditions merit special precautions.  I saw a special 
about Mt. Everest and how so many people are now into climbing 
it that there are now traffic jams on the climbing trail.  if 
Mt. Everest was in yankee land there would be concrete walking 
trails complete with handrails.  they'd have an elevator and a 
restaurant at the top.  

have you ever been to Carlsbad Caverns National Park?  it has 
concrete walking trails complete with handrails.  there is a 
restaurant at the bottom and a elevator for fatso porkerbeast 
to ride back up.  some of the fatso porkerbeast will ride the 
elevator down so they can get to the FOOD faster.  I enjoyed 
my trip to Carlsbad Caverns but I wish I'd been able to see 
it without concrete walking trails complete with handrails.   

> The Everest climbers can't haul changes of clothing all the way
> up there, and they would risk death at -40 degrees by trying to take
> off more than their backpacks, crampons, and boot shells (leaving
> their boot liners on their feet). They simply buy expedition
> sleeping bags rated to -40 degrees. Combined with the added insulation
> of their snowsuits, their bags keep them plenty warm, even when they
> get into them sweaty.

I think it's kind of sad that Mt. Everest is now littered with 
spent oxygen bottles tossed down in the snow by lazy worthless 
types who create unsightly litter.  they ought not to do that.


> The other item of importance is to avoid wearing anything made of
> COTTON in cold weather. Cotton absorbs massive amounts of water
> compared to synthetic fibers and loses most of its insulating power
> when wet. If you want to have a miserable night outdoors, wear
> cotton and soak it with perspiration, rain, or snow.
> 
> Synthetic materials such as Polartec, Thermax, etc. absorb less
> water than cotton and maintain more insulating power when wet.
> As long as you aren't sopping wet when you get in the bag, you'll
> warm up quickly enough, and your body heat will gradually dry your
> clothes as you sleep. However, a lot of that moisture will condense
> into your sleeping bag's insulation or the inside of your tent.
> 
> You can avoid soaking your clothes in the first place by removing
> layers during strenuous activity to control sweating.
> 
> If your sleeping bag isn't warm enough, bring two bags and
> put one inside the other. Obviously an expedition-style bag
> with a hood for your head is far warmer than a rectangular
> bag that leaves your head hanging out to lose heat. The scalp
> and face are well-supplied with blood vessels so an uncovered
> head will lose heat faster than any other part of your body.
> 
> > while I was out explaining to the deer herd that I
> > do not want them in my soybean
> 
> Say it with buckshot.

to dangerous because of all the houses surrounding this Farm.


> -- the Danimal


Danimal, that was a good read containing information of value.

for camping in NC one only needs a sleeping bag with a 
rating of 20 degrees 'F'.  a bag with a lower rating will 
cause [most] people to be to warm.  I talked a city girl 
into camping with me and she had no sleeping bag.  when 
we went to get her one she picked out the -20 'F' rated 
bag.  I tried to talk her out of that.  that night it got 
really funny in the tent when she kept opening the bag to 
cool off. 

camping is a good hobby.