In article <e2ihc01pgbflcks5d4melpu74v5mf8tn53@4ax.com>, 
posted Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:08:44 -0700, Bob Officer says...

:On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:21:12 GMT, in alt.astrology, Kali <Kali@nope.not>
:wrote:
:
:>In article <35325a08.0406081832.35cfd38f@posting.google.com>, 
:>posted 8 Jun 2004 19:32:24 -0700, Edmond Wollmann says...
:<snip>
:
:>:The "Mask of Eternity" a relief that stands just outside Bombay India
:>:is the metaphor-a symbol of the effect of transcendent God manifesting
:>:in the masculine and feminine polarized "versions" of itself. One face
:>:in the center (the transcendent one) and a male face on one side and
:>:female on the other looking out and AWAY from center, represent and
:>:reflect what GOD LOOKS LIKE in physicality. The POLARIZED VERSION in
:>:matter.
:>
:>I interpret that much differently than you. I see this icon 
:>as a symbol of man's need to see god in his own image. 
:
:I have always maintained the gods are created in Man's image. We imbue our
:gods with all the human traits we abhor; Petty; jealous; vane; licentious;
:trouble making; war loving, as well as those things we admire in ourselves;
:peaceful; intelligent; industrious;learning; artful.
:
:We have created our gods in our image.. or as images of ourself.

Yes. And one could extend this by considering whether Ed has 
created his astrology in his own image. 

:>:Therefore, because we create this definition of separateness (Mars,
:>:the
:>:first house and the idea of "birth" within time) from the
:>:undifferentiated wholeness "All That Is," the planet Venus acts as the
:>:reflective mirror for the parts of us that we are NOT focused on in
:>:this life. We meet these other reflections of the self through
:>:relationships (Libra) and through "things" (Taurus) that we may
:>:possess-
:>:these are our other resources of the self. Hence Venus represents
:>:personal and social reflections. It's reversed spin, like that of
:>:Uranus keys us into the need to sometimes go against the "grain"
:>:accepted flow, to "shine brightly."
:>
:>One can see "resources of the self" throughout the zodiac. 
:>The entire enterprise is a "reflection" of the human need for 
:>interpretation of experience; causation in particular. 
:
:or simple blame. T
:
:he idea of predestination is questionable at best, however. Astrology based
:upon the hermetic principal "as above, so below" is bound to the concept of
:predestination. Even the corollary that the Stars simple reflect our selves
:and are not deterministic, I don't see the stars changing places as
:millions of people interact.

There's a thought. 

:Does Astrology work? A check of the basic principle upon which astrology is
:based, finds most people see astrology as the shame and pseudo science it
:is today.

It is entertaining, though, and rich in symbol. I have no 
problem with using it for meditation, etc. It is a human 
artifact, and as such contains some value. But like you, I 
don't see it as a reliable construct or a predictive 
enterprise. 

Kali
-- 
Troika Woman
Peter Hood #4
Sekrit Agent
CARNIVORE/3.0
section 811(c).