On 9/12/2003 2:47 am, in article
d194226e71525a77c3d5665eb6abc1bf@news.teranews.com, "Roger" <roger@ .>
wrote:

> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>  (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>     someone claiming to be White-Knight wrote
>        in message <BBFAC2E0.613%White-Knight@White-Country.org>:
> 
>> On 8/12/2003 9:16 pm, in article
>> 9a93fcc04dfea2f9cd5d49aee5cfa914@news.teranews.com, "Roger" <roger@ .>
>> wrote:
> 
> <snip attribution>
> 
>>>>>>> Since you can't give a definition of 'race' beyond the pitifully
>>>>>>> inept "I know it when I see it," it's hard to see how you would
>>>>>>> know who is and isn't of your race.
> 
>>>>>> Well let me ask you this question. Is impossible to know what race
you
>>>>>> are?
> 
>>>>> Which will be answered right after you define what you mean by "race"
>>>>> and how this can be objectively determined.
> 
>>>> This can be done.  If it is possible to look at a dog or any animal and be
>>>> able to tell the difference between one breed and another then it must be
>>>> possible to tell the difference between humans.
> 
>>> One usually follows a statement of faith with "Amen" or something.
>>> 
>>> Since you have been singularly unable to come up with a definition,
>>> that's apparently what this is for you.
> 
>> race 
>> 
>> \Race\, n. [F. race; cf. Pr. & Sp. raza, It. razza; all from OHG. reiza
>> line, akin to E. write. See Write.] 1. The descendants of a common ancestor;
>> a family, tribe, people, or nation, believed or presumed to belong to the
>> same stock; a lineage; a breed.
>> 
>> Whence the long race of Alban fathers come. --Dryden.
>> 
>> Note: Naturalists and ehnographers divide mankind into several distinct
>> varieties, or races. Cuvier refers them all to three, Pritchard enumerates
>> seven, Agassiz eight, Pickering describes eleven. One of the common
>> classifications is that of Blumenbach, who makes five races: the Caucasian,
>> or white race, to which belong the greater part of the European nations and
>> those of Western Asia; the Mongolian, or yellow race, occupying Tartary,
>> China, Japan, etc.; the Ethiopian, or negro race, occupying most of Africa
>> (except the north), Australia, Papua, and other Pacific Islands; the
>> American, or red race, comprising the Indians of North and South America;
>> and the Malayan, or brown race, which occupies the islands of the Indian
>> Archipelago, etc. Many recent writers classify the Malay and American races
>> as branches of the Mongolian. See Illustration in Appendix.
>> 
>> 2. Company; herd; breed.
>> 
>> 3. (Bot.) A variety of such fixed character that it may be propagated.
> 
> Now, which of these definitions do you claim includes the loyalty you
> have asserted is paramount in the decision of whether a given person
> is a given race or not?

You remind me of a small child that asks a question then before the answer
is completed the child then asks why? Then you answer that question and
before you complete the answer the child again asks why? This is repeated
time and time again and no matter how often you answer all the questions the
reply is still the same.  Fortunately everyone I have ever encountered
before has grown out  of it.  You are the first person that I have
encountered that hasn't.  I could sit here till the end of time and you
would never figure it out.