Items in alt.philosophy.checkmate

Subject:Re: Need Explanation
Date:Thu, 1 Oct 2015 21:06:09 -0700
From:"%" <persent@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:alt.atheism,alt.philosophy.checkmate,alt.usenet.kooks
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <8qheal.gq9.17.1@news.alt.net>,
> "Ms Kitty DoW #6" <Kitty@meow.mix> wrote:
> 
>> "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
>> 
>>> IF there's a Creator... and there may very well be, there is no
>>> particular religion that has the key to "heaven," which I highly
>>> doubt exists in any case.
>> 
>> Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no
>> one comes to the Father but through Me. -John14:6
>> 
>> So the above shows me which "religions" are the true ones.
> 
> Since we're all still waiting for evidence that either Jesus or your
> god exists, you're talking nonsense.
> 
> 
>>> Most successful religions claim that you have to
>>> subscribe to their beliefs to be "saved".  Obviously, they can't
>>> all be right, so what makes you so convinced that the christian
>>> religion is The Way?
>> 
>> I agree that it's confusing, and I hold more of a Biblical view, not
>> some church's laws.  The bible promises that if we seek with our
>> whole heart, we will find Him.
> 
> So, in other words, you have to believe in your god to find out if he
> exists???
> 
> Do you not understand how incredibly stupid that is?
> 
> 
>>> If you had been born and raised in another part of the world, where
>>> christianity is not popular, you'd undoubtedly have an entire
>>> different set of beliefs, and you'd be just as convinced that
>>> islam, or hindu, or whatever was what your god wanted you to
>>> believe.  Are any of those people more right or wrong than you and
>>> your beliefs? 
>> 
>> I can see how they would have a certain set of beliefs, but I also
>> know that many Muslims, etc. have been saved, when they seek out the
>> truth. 
> 
> How are they "saved" when they are executed as apostates?
> 
> 
> 
>>> Anyone who claims to know "What God Wants," is a liar, a fool, or
>>> both. 
>> 
>> I only know what God wants when I read the Bible.  Sometimes we
>> don't know what he wants until the time comes.
> 
> Still waiting for that evidence that your god exists.
> 
> 
> 
>>> If we're to be judged by a Creator upon our death, I firmly believe
>>> that we'll be judged by the way we lived, and not by what religion
>>> we subscribed to... or if we ever chose to subscribe to any of them.
>> 
>> You really should check out the book "The New Evidence that Demands a
>> Verdict" written by Josh McDowell. (Volume 1 & 2)
>>  It answers all of the questions you asked.  Written by a man that
>> was hell bent on proving that it was all a farce.
> 
> Is here any actual evidence in his books that your god exists? If not,
> why would we waste our time reading nonsense?

we read yours