Subject: | Re: Need Explanation
| Date: | Thu, 1 Oct 2015 17:32:38 -0700
| From: | "%" <persent@gmail.com>
| Newsgroups: | alt.atheism,alt.philosophy.checkmate,alt.usenet.kooks
|
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <eg5r0bltava8k566hk6nn15h3016c8plpk@4ax.com>,
> "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. DoW #10" <greghall@yacht_master.fake> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:08:42 -0700, "Checkmate, DoW #1"
>> <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
>>> In article <h64r0blvqb2v68vcl20c60hdg98og3p9m4@4ax.com>,
>>> greghall@yacht_master.fake says...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:56:06 -0700, "Checkmate, DoW #1"
>>>> <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote>In article
>>>> <jd2r0bddljb8mp2c9ot511hq1vqc0r07o7@4ax.com>,
>>>>> greghall@yacht_master.fake says...
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 22:59:20 -0700, "Checkmate, DoW #1"
>>>>>> <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IF there's a Creator... and there may very well be, there is no
>>>>>>> particular religion that has the key to "heaven," which I
>>>>>>> highly doubt exists in any case. Most successful religions
>>>>>>> claim that you have to subscribe to their beliefs to be
>>>>>>> "saved". Obviously, they can't all be
>>>>>>> right, so what makes you so convinced that the christian
>>>>>>> religion is The
>>>>>>> Way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stupid and WRONG. The creator whom we call God, is a three-part
>>>>>> being. The Father, the Son (who appeared on Earth as a man) and
>>>>>> the holy spirit or ghost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or so you were taught (brainwashed) to believe. Prove that Jesus
>>>>> was the son of God. You can't. The "immaculate conception"?
>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus never professed to be in favor
>>>>>> of one religion over another. He only professed to reveal the
>>>>>> truth about God, his father. That we call those who believe in
>>>>>> Jesus and his teachings *Christians* doesn't mean anything more
>>>>>> than the label we place upon history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is but one God and Jesus is the only human being that has
>>>>>> proved that fact by dying and then coming back to life thus
>>>>>> fulfilling prophecy and his own contemporary words.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no proof that Jesus "came back to life". Only hearsay,
>>>>> and then a missing body to make it impossible to disprove the
>>>>> hearsay.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is
>>>>>> so remarkable that only fools would arrogantly reject it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the contrary. It's so remarkable that only fools would
>>>>> believe it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So don't confuse religions denominations with the one true
>>>>>> religion which is the teachings of Jesus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... just like all the other "one true religions".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you had been born and raised in another part of the world,
>>>>>>> where christianity is not popular, you'd undoubtedly have an
>>>>>>> entire different
>>>>>>> set of beliefs, and you'd be just as convinced that islam, or
>>>>>>> hindu, or
>>>>>>> whatever was what your god wanted you to believe. Are any of
>>>>>>> those people more right or wrong than you and your beliefs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those who don't believe in Jesus are wrong. It's that simple.
>>>>>> That doesn't necessarily mean they are bad people, only ignorant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow, you've managed to fuck up the attributions to make it
>>>>> look like I said that. I did not. Those are YOUR words,
>>>>> demonstrating YOUR ignorance, because you believe in the hearsay
>>>>> and bullshit about alleged miracles that were deliberately made
>>>>> to be believable by gullible people, just by getting rid of a
>>>>> corpse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone who claims to know "What God Wants," is a liar, a fool,
>>>>>>> or both.
>>>>>>> If we're to be judged by a Creator upon our death, I firmly
>>>>>>> believe that
>>>>>>> we'll be judged by the way we lived, and not by what religion we
>>>>>>> subscribed to... or if we ever chose to subscribe to any of
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong again because God Himself states time and time again
>>>>>> in his own Word - the Bible - what God wants humans to be, do,
>>>>>> act like and how they should worship their Creator, their Father
>>>>>> - whom we call God.
>>>>>
>>>>> "God" didn't say that. People said that to scare, coerce, or
>>>>> convince others to subscribe to their particular brand of
>>>>> religion. God, if he exists, has never said anything to anyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your bluster and false bravado serves only to publicly
>>>> display your self-enforced ignorance, dude.
>>>>
>>>> Until you actually read the Bible and the history that
>>>> surrounds the writings therein you are simply not
>>>> credible.
>>>>
>>>> Why, you sound almost as ignorant as the 911 conspiracy
>>>> kOOks.
>>>
>>> Once again, dummy... God did not write the bible. People wrote the
>>> bible to further their own agendas. People decided what to put in
>>> the bible, and just as importantly, what they decided they'd rather
>>> leave
>>> out. The bible is the work of men, not God.
>>
>>
>> No, you're wrong. There was a time when God deigned to speak
>> directly to men. These men were certainly capable of passing
>> on either verbally or in writing God's spoken words to them.
>>
>> After God stopped talking directly to men, he talked to them
>> indirectly via Jesus as Jesus is of the God trinity.
>
>
> There's not a shred of evidence that this Jesus person ever existed.
yea there is in fact there's lots
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