"SteveL" <stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message 
news:-sGdnWt5u-83nqveRVnyrw@giganews.com...
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:57:04 -0400, "DGVREIMAN"
> <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>
>>>
>>Doug Says:  It should be clear to all by now that whatever 
>>SteveL
>>says is a lie - I normally ignore serial liars and traitors, 
>>but
>>Smitty is finding so many posts SteveL has posted in favor of 
>>the
>>terrorists I thought it necessary to allow the AVV NG to see 
>>the
>>true colors of this traitor - and there is much more to come.
>>
>>Doug Grant (Tm)
>>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, 
> or that
> we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
> unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the 
> American
> public."
> Teddy Roosevelt
>
> "He who is willing to sacrifice a little freedom for a little 
> security
> deserves neither."
> Benjamin Franklin.
>
>
> OMG Doug LOOK!!! Ben Franklin wants us to be attacked by
> terrorists.!!!!  He says we don't deserve freedom!!! He says we 
> don't
> deserve security!!!!
>
> (thought processes courtesy Doug Grant (tm))
>
> FOAD traitor.

Doug Says - In my opinion:  SteveL is doing his typical 
distortion dance.  Taking statements out of context, then 
applying those out of context statements to situations that do 
not even resemble the context of the original statement.  SteveL 
does that to just about anyone that points out his traitorous 
statements about the USA, and the US military.  In the case of 
Teddy Roosevelt's comments posted above by the shadow traitor 
Stevel,  such comments (out of context of course)  had nothing to 
do with a war that our Congress has declared.  SteveL wants 
everyone to believe that Bush created 911 just to go to war - we 
all know that is a lie and a diversion from the fact that it was 
our Congress, not less than three times, (once under Clinton and 
twice under Bush) that resolved to remove Saddam by force, and to 
wage our present war on terrorists and all those that aid or 
harbor terrorists, which clearly Saddam was doing.

Also, Benjamin Franklin, was of course, correct in his time, but 
not in this time, or thereafter.  President Lincoln set the 
standard for what freedoms Americans must temporarily sacrifice 
to preserve the Union and our Republic, not Benjamin Franklin.

Yes we are at war, and yes the Government wants to read our 
library cards, and have the right to listen to our conversations 
if we are suspected of terrorism, or suspected of aiding 
terrorism.  SteveL and his friends hate the Patriotic Act as it 
will restrict their radical Muslim  friends, and expose traitors 
and the financiers of traitors all over the world - and that is 
clearly contrary to SteveL's desires and agenda.  SteveL clearly 
hates the USA, and SteveL also clearly wants the USA to lose its 
war on terror.  That fact  alone means we must preserve the 
Patriotic Act until we win our war against radical Islam.  The 
more traitors like SteveL howl and bark against the Patriots Act, 
the more real patriots must endeavor to preserve it.

Doug Grant (Tm)