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Subject:Re: making tough, chewy bagels?
Date:Sun, 14 Sep 2003 03:49:18 GMT
From:alzelt <alzelFINNFAN@tworldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups:alt.bread.recipes


barry wrote:

> "family" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> news:5tn8b.247$VL4.381516@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> 
>>any chance of you posting it?
>>
> 
> 
> Bagels by Julia Child, from "Baking with Julia"
> 
> Note:  the bagel maker at the local bagel shop, which has pretty good
> bagels, uses All Trumps and swears by it.
> 
> 2 Tablespoons butter, melted
> 1 packet yeast (2.25 teaspoons)
> 2.25 cups water (80-90F)
> 2 Tablespoons sugar
> 3 Tablespoons solid vegetable shortening
> 1 Tablespoon salt
> 1 to 2 teaspoons black pepper, optional
> 6 cups flour  (I have tried all sorts of flours and find that the highest
> gluten is the best.  I currently use All Trumps.  Harvest King doesn't
> really work well and All Purpose is a disaster.  I haven't tried Atta yet.
> That would be interesting -- Indian bagels.  Would you have to substitute
> ghee for the butter?  Would a bit of Indian spice added to the dough be out
> of place?)
> Barry

While I have never tried this recipe, I have an immediate "alert" going 
off in my head. Two tbsps of buttter and 3 tbsps of shortening is 
something akin to scratching your chalk against the chalk board. I find 
that very hard to believe that anyone would use a shortening in a 
classicly defined lean bread.


-- 
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
                                 --James Michener