On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:45:06 -0700, in alt.atheism 
john w <j-w<no>@yow.hoo> wrote in
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>On 7 Oct 2005 07:05:48 -0700, Falcon <falcon23587@verizzon.com> wrote:
> copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
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>>In article <GOo1f.11247$q1.5331@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Tani Jantsang
>>© says...
>>
>>>Not quite true.  We can still hear the Big Bang - background radiation makes 
>>>a sound.  Now, "where" the point singularity that later went "big bang" came 
>>>from is a whole other kind of question.  All the "where" and "when" was part 
>>>of that point - that point was all space/time, all matter/energy, all 
>>>sound/light - these things weren't even separate things in that point.  They 
>>>slowly became separate things - and that process is still going on.  Space 
>>>is expanding - there is not enough matter to make gravity enough to slow the 
>>>expansion down.  Stars die, new stars come into being.  We can observe this.
>>
>>And scientists have also tracked back the BB to a singularity which of course
>>presents a problem for those who do not want to deal with first causes. 
>
>My gosh! Who woulda thunk?
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>The loudest, most perfectly intolerant Pharisee/Calvinist in the
>group, and he's making noises like a Christian!
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>:-)
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>God bless!
>
>john w

Feeling outdone in the Pharisee department?