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Subject:Re: Governments gone bad: your laws or mine? (1/4)
Date:Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:09:15 -0500
From:Jd <jday123@bellsouth.net>
Newsgroups:alt.education,alt.atheism,alt.feminazis,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights
Cary Kittrell wrote:

 [snip]

><Jd wrote:

>< What makes you think that is the only source?

>It's YOUR source, chief.  Check for yourself:
>
>    http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=3e5aab3b.4903702%40newsgroups.bellsouth.net&lr=&hl=en
>
>...for the first post in which you brought this silly idea up.
>
>Four paragraphs from the top, JDay speaks:
>
>    Darwin was suffering from demonic influences and was actually
>    trying to come up with an answer for the origins of life
>    since earlier, the scientific community had recieved a jolt
>    from Louis Pasteur (I think) who disproved spontaneous
>    generation, which was what was "in vogue" in those days to
>    atheistic scientists. 
>
>    "After taking part in the witchcraft ceremonies, not only was
>    his mind affected but his body also. He developed a chronic
>    and incapacitating illness, and went to his death under a
>    depression he could not shake" (Random House Encyclopedia,
>    1977, p. 768). 
>
>Goodness!  That's exactly the page of the exact same edition I show
>in the link above.  What ARE the odds?

99.999% that Darwin was afflicted with demons. Two accounts 
suggest it was during the time period of the Beagle voyage, or
shortly thereafter.

1) from the web...

"It is not commonly known that Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America
by nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took
part in their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to
him. Upon his return to England, although his health was
strangely weakened, he spent the rest of his life working on
theories to destroy faith in the Creator."

http://evolution-facts.org

2) from Darwin himself who was a Christian explorer who quoted
from the Bible just as I do...

"During these two years I was led to think much about religion.
Whilst on board the Beagle I was quite orthodox, and I remember
being heartily laughed at by several of the officers (though
themselves orthodox) for quoting the Bible as an unanswerable
authority on some point of morality. I suppose it was the
noveltry of the argument that amused them." - Charles Darwin (The
Autobiography of Charles Darwin)

who himself as a Christian once believed that the gospel was
Divine revelation...

"..by such reflections as these, which I give not as having the
least noveltry or value, but as they influenced me, I gradually
came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation."
- Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)

who after exploring the jungles and coming into contact with the
indigenous tribes thereof, lost his faith.

"But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old
Testament from its manifestly false history of the world, with
the Tower of Babel, the rainbow at sign, etc., etc., and from its
attributing to God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no
more to be trusted than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the
beliefs of any barbarian." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of
Charles Darwin)

"Thus disbelief crept over me at very slow rate, but was at last
complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have
never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion
was correct." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles
Darwin)

"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to
be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show
that the men who do not believe, and this would include my
Father, Brother and almost all of my friends, will be everlasting
punished." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)

In the above you can see evidence that his resident demons had
gotten him to publish the notion that hell doesn't really exist,
while implying that only mean ole Christians would teach that it
does.

Also, it's rather obvious that Darwin could not hold to the 
belief that Adam was created by God from dust while
simultaneously laying the building blocks of human evolution
having occured via nature from tree swinging mammals to ape-like
creatures to modern day humans.

You can see that his autobiography is devoted more to him
defending himself from his fallen-from-faith POV than it is to
promoting his discoveries and theories as being groung breaking,
revolutionary, enlightenment for humanity. Why do *you* suppose
that is? Do you think God would actually have a famous person go
around quoting from scripture and publishing the belief that
Chrisitianity is Divine revelation one day, and the next day
calling that same God who gave the revelation a "revengeful
tyrant"?

I'm here to tell you, God will not be mocked.

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth,
that shall he also reap." (Galatians 6:7)

><>And speaking of lying, I'm STILL waiting for you to show proof of
><>your abusive claim that I "cursed" John Knight in this
><>newsgroup.  
><
><Sure thing.
><
><Webster on "curse": " To utter a wish of evil against; a blight;
><to torment with calamities. To utter imprecations, to blaspheme.
><Imprecation of evil; execration; torment."
><
><"Execrate":  "To curse; to abominate."
><
><"Abomination": "Hatred; object of hatred; loathsomeness."
><
><"Loathe": To feel disgust at; to abhor; to abominate. To feel
><nausea or abhorrence."
><
><So you see "curse" is also a subjective concept.  It includes
><blaspheme which means: "To speak irreverently of, as of God; to
><speak evil of. To utter blasphemy."  
><
><Blasphemy is one thing Bob and yourself do well.  And when you do
><it you are "cursing", technically.
>
>
>Not nearly good enough.  Show me one post in which I curse John
>Knight.

It was good enough for me.  

><So do you think if I were lying it would be worse than your
><blasphemy, cursing, and promotion of the homosexual agenda?
>
>Of course.  You know where I stand, and why.  But if you lie, 
>nothing else you say is worth bothering with, because that's
>just what you find convenient to tell us today.

If  I'm lying then why do you continue to bother with these
things I say? We've been through this perhaps half and dozen
times yet here you are again "bothering with" the things I say.  

If anything, you're the liar here.  Futhermore you'll probably
end up cursing and blaspheing just like you did against Mr.
Knight who was merely expressing his opinion that you
miscegenators were the cause of all of Americas problems.

Besides, anyone who thinks a little white lie here or there is as
bad as the act of sodomy and blaspheme doesn't have their
priorities or morals straight.

I think it's high time we had a true x-church/State separation.
People who've fallen away from the faith and have accepted
demonic morals ought not be involved in running this country or
teaching our children.

Just recently I found out that bi-sexual women in some cases are
actually lesbians who keep trying to get pregnant so they have
have a child in their lesbian lifestyle, and once they get a kid
they don't tell the father and they don't have sex with men
anymore.

That is about the most underhanded, immoral thing I can think of
besides the mass murdering of unborn babies, the act of sodomy
and the blasphemy that goes on on a daily basis among ungodly
leftist.

Jd

"The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that
hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff
to the wheat? saith the Lord." (Jeremiah 23:28)