Subject: | Re: * Public information: Re: Adolf Hitler was a Christian!
| Date: | Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:39:33 -0500
| From: | David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>
| Newsgroups: | alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet,alt.atheism,alt.recovery.na,alt.recovery.aa
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In alt.talk.creationism, Virtualoso <virtualoso@innocent.com> wrote in
<260720031909031793%virtualoso@innocent.com>:
>In article <1rk5iv80ogp5svhb9ot8vai3f643dtohml@4ax.com>, David Jensen
><david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
>
>> In alt.talk.creationism, Virtualoso <virtualoso@innocent.com> wrote in
>> <260720031107132127%virtualoso@innocent.com>:
>>
>> >In article <22g5iv06rjfc6mhrkq9h0edunjk6ltdqoe@4ax.com>, David Jensen
>> ><david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In alt.talk.creationism, Virtualoso <virtualoso@innocent.com> wrote
in
>> >> <260720031022139650%virtualoso@innocent.com>:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <6m95iv00smk960g2jcp207lbr05p5adf2h@4ax.com>, David Jensen
>> >> ><david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> When one's final act on this earth is suicide there is no
>> >> >> >> forgiveness.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Really? You decide that?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There are many Christians who believe this, but I have no idea why.
It
>> >> >> is quite a hateful doctrine and shows a complete lack of understanding
>> >> >> of mental illness and suicide.
>> >> >
>> >> >A "hateful" doctrine? What's "hateful" about that?
>> >> >
>> >> >As for understandings of mental illness and suicide, what is it that
>> >> >you understand about that, exactly, that you're concerned is being
>> >> >hated? And, if merely a "doctrine" about "forgiveness" is at issue
>> >> >here, what's the point of worrying about whether a person is "forgiven"
>> >> >or not (by what/whom?) after they have killed themselves?
>> >>
>> >> It implies that someone who committed suicide is condemned, therefore
>> >> stating that mental state is irrelevant and that it is impossible for
>> >> someone who is committing suicide to repent after the effect of the
>> >> attempt is irreversible.
>> >
>> >"Implies"? LOL. Do mere attempts count, or just successful ones?
>> >
>> >Your concern, then, is that people are able to repent after having
>> >killed themselves, and so then be forgiven somehow? Draft some
>> >legislation, perhaps.
>>
>> I'm referring to your teaching about suicide. No laws can change what
>> you teach. I just find your teachings to be repugnant. Your teachings
>> state something that is not taught in the Bible and contrary to
>> Christian doctrine.
>
>Those aren't my teachings. Try again.
If you don't believe it, why did you make the claim?
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