Subject: | Re: What does the Fossil Record support?... quotes from Carl Sagan and Coffin
| Date: | Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:53:12 GMT
| From: | Eric Gill <ericvgill@yahoo.com>
| Newsgroups: | alt.talk.creationism,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.astronomy,sci.bio.paleontology,talk.atheism
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Jabriol@excite.com (JaBrIoL) wrote in
news:d222de3e.0309250532.2bf8ccb5@posting.google.com:
> "Zachriel" <angel@zachriel.com> wrote in message
> news:<usscb.13752$1V3.236782735@twister2.starband.net>...
>> "Frank Reichenbacher" <frank@bio-con.com> wrote in message
>> news:_KucnZhxP7TNzO-iXTWc-g@speakeasy.net...
>> >
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>> > Sagan was an astronomer. Would you take your car to a hair dresser
>> > to fix
>> an
>> > oil leak?
>>
>> Well, even a hair dresser shouldn't be quoted out-of-context. There's
>> a semi-colon after the phrase "Great Designer", not a period.
>>
>> "The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a Great
>> Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the Designer
>> becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments are attempted on
>> an improved design. But this notion is a little disconcerting. Each
>> plant and animal is exquisitely made; should not a supremely
>> competent Designer have been able to make the intended variety from
>> the start?" -- Cosmos
>>
>> Sagan is obviously making a rhetorical argument *against* the common
>> conceptions of a Great Designer in regards to biological evolution.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Frank
>>
>
>
> Sagan was falling into: "why did god not make everything perfect"
Actually, Sagan is wondering why an allegedly superior being did so
badly.
It's the first question anyone claiming a diety is involved *should* be
asking, but never does.
> he forget about tools used by a designer.
A human designer, yes. But the ID community claims life is beyond the
means of a human designer. And evolution. All the while not offering any
mechanism aside from magic to "explain" the "problems" only IDers
perceive.
Do you get dizzy, whirling around your ad-hoc justifications and special
pleading, Jabbers?
<snip>
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