Subject: | yeah, whatever
| Date: | Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:50:28 GMT
| From: | "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@earthlink.net>
| Newsgroups: | alt.activism,alt.anarchism,alt.california,alt.coffee,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.politics,alt.society.anarchy,alt.society.labor-unions,rec.food.drink.coffee
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"Michael Legel" <mjlegel@mtco.com> wrote in message
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> "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:IaFDc.15423$w07.238@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "Michael Legel" <mjlegel@mtco.com> wrote in message
> > news:b1e03de2f603e8e9c38796d1c7353b91@news.teranews.com...
> > >
> > > "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:RlEDc.15366$w07.8110@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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> > > >
> > > > You have right to sell and market your time and labor as you see
fit,
> > the
> > > > right to get paid per any voluntary contract you enter into with
your
> > > > employer, and the right to leave and seek work elsewhere if you
think
> > you're
> > > > getting a raw deal. That's as far as it goes, despite your wishful
> > thinking
> > > > otherwise...
> > >
> > > You have the right to spout this ignorant nonsense ... even the right
to
> > > believe it. But that doesn't make it so. Your ignorance regarding
> > employee
> > > "rights" and labor law is very profound. As I said before, you run
the
> > risk
> > > of serious loss in a law suit if you treat employees in the manor you
> > > describe.
> >
> > Point out anything above that is factually incorrect... if you can.
Also,
> > show us your sources substantiating your assertion that the workplace is
a
> > "democracy" before lecturing others about being "ignorant", OK?
>
> You say "that's as far as it goes" and you are wrong. I have the right to
> belong to a union in my workplace. I have the right to have that union
> negotiate in good faith with my employer and my employer must by law
negotiate
> with my union in good faith. I have the right to support my union both
> verbally and in my attire both at work and away. I have the right to hold
and
> attend union meetings at my work place whether my employer likes it or
not.
You can have your union meetings off-site during your off hours...
> I have the right to strike for both economic and unfair labor practice.
OK...
> I can
> not be permanently replaced or "fired" if I am striking against my
employers
> unfair labor practices.
And there's where you're wrong. If your demands are reasonable and you're
worth what you're asking, odd are you will get what you asked for. If they
are out of line, you will probably be locked out and lose your job. Do you
submit that you have the right to strike for $100/hour and be guaranteed of
not being replaced when your demands are totally out of line with reality?
That's what you are in effect saying...
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