"Michael Legel" <mjlegel@mtco.com> wrote in message
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> "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > "Michael Legel" <mjlegel@mtco.com> wrote in message
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> > > "Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > > > "Michael Legel" <mjlegel@mtco.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > Who overlooked it?  We just don't agree that this investment in
> > business
> > > > gives
> > > > > them any special right to ignore the rights of their employees to
> > > > unionize.
> > > >
> > > > Investment entails property rights. I know that's a concept that
lefties
> > > > don't care for, but those who invest in a business do have rights
> > concerning
> > > > their property, despite the ceaseless efforts of socialists to take
them
> > > > away...
> > >
> > > Agreed.  Investment entails property rights.  Fortunately employees
are
> > not
> > > property.
> >
> > Did I say they were?

Evasion noted, Michael...

> > > Employees have rights, even on business property.
> >
> > As I said, they have the right to be paid, not to be physically abused
or
> > forced to commit illegal acts, and the right to quit and find work
> > elsewhere.But they don't have the right to steal, vandalize, or
approproate
> > assets they don't own. What part of that do you not understand?
>
> Now you lecture to me about things irrelevant to what I said.

You're discussing employee rights, and I'm naming them for you. How is that
"irrelevant" to what you said?

>  I understand
> that you are incapable of admitting that employees have rights in the work
> place.

Nice try, Michael. Look what you tried to pull off:

ML: Mentions that employees have rights.
SdSD: Acknowledges the specific rights that employees have.
ML: Says that SdSD is lecturing him about things irrelevant to what ML has
said, THEN proceeds to accuse SdSD of being incapable of acknowledging that
which he just posted.

That crap may work with specimens such as Clore, but it won't fly for those
who are used to your type of games...

> > > Imagine that.  A country with rights for everyone in the business.
> >
> > Businesses are NOT democracies. Those who do not own the business do not
> > have the same rights as those who do - plain and simple.
>
> They most certainly do.

How is that? Laws? Legal precedents? Sources to back up your claims?

> Again, where does it say that if I buy or build a
> business I accrue more rights by doing so.

We're discussing PROPERTY RIGHTS regarding the ownership of the BUSINESS.
Being the lefty you are, I don't doubt that you are quite confused by the
concept, as it contradicts the Marxist/socialist worldview that you have
been indoctrinated with. Nobody accrues more rights by opening a business,
but they don't lose them merely because you think they should. Get a clue...

> Or that if I opt to be "merely" an
> employee I forfeit any that I was born with?

You have right to sell and market your time and labor as you see fit, the
right to get paid per any voluntary contract you enter into with your
employer, and the right to leave and seek work elsewhere if you think you're
getting a raw deal. That's as far as it goes, despite your wishful thinking
otherwise...