Just because someone thinks the so-called "income" tax is wrong, does 
not make them a freeloader. How many taxes does the average American pay 
less the "income" tax? You pay sales tax, excise taxes on just about all 
consumable goods - gasoline - 45% of the cost is tax,how many gallons a 
day are sold?? If you read the IRC you'll see many of the taxes. If the 
government cannot run on the taxes it is currently taking in - then we 
need to have people in office WHO can do the job........
Sovereign

Omphalos wrote:
> On Fri 04 Jul 2003 01:06:52a, rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
> wrote in news:be321c$eij$1@bolt.sonic.net: 
> 
> 
>>The Frog  <jmatt@ticnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Omphalos  <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>As to the flat income tax, I am an ardent supporter, as long as
>>>>>it is zero percent.
>>>>
>>>>You enjoy the benefits of government but you dont' want to pay for
>>>>it. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps I have a simplistic, moralistic view, but I have always
>>>>>thought that slavery was wrong. 
>>>>
>>>>There is no slavery.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I know it is unfashionable to think in terms of absolute
>>>>>morality, but human slavery is just plain *wrong*,
>>>>
>>>>There is no slavery.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What is slavery, in simple economic terms, if not a 100% tax on
>>>>>income? 
>>>>
>>>>Obviously you don't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since I consider myself to be a free person, I can see no
>>>>>justification for any taxes on my income,
>>>>
>>>>That's because you're a whiny hypocrite.  You use US currency and
>>>>money, you live under the protection of the US military, you
>>>>benefit from US laws, you drive on public roads, you enjoy police
>>>>and fire protection.
>>>>
>>>>All that costs money.
>>>>
>>>>If you don't want to pay any taxes then there aere still several
>>>>places in the world that do not require you to pay taxes.
>>>
>>>Please remember that the United States got along just fine for most
>>>of it's existance without an income tax.
>>
>>And for that same period the US was a 2nd tier nation, much less
>>powerful and influential than the great powers.
>>
>>You could save a lot of money by making the military 1/10th its
>>current size, eliminating social security, paying off the debt,
>>selling off the national parks, and eliminating the FDIC and SEC.
>>
>>But it's usually hypocrites who don't like taxes but still want a 
>>lot of government spending.
> 
> 
> It's the Democrats who don't want to cut spending. Although, lately
> the Republicans have been guilty of it as well.
> 
>